Beche 65 kg "older model"

Hi All.

Im trully sorry...Even Im from Finland my Swed is so bad :-[ that its better me to write in Eng.
I do hope it´s OK?

Well...I had amaising luck and now I have this Beche 65 kg.
It will need some work before it runs ok ...but if I could get some info about this machine.

Manual?? That would be great...but for now just one guestion.

Second valve...the one whit handle control. Second valve was removed and now what I have looked this machine its bit different than primary one.( upper one)
Should this second valve be closed cylinder shape or is it open pipe like cast slide ?
Im sorry I dont have pic just now ..but slide in side the valve is cast whit air slots / drilled holes in it.
So other end ..( in side the machine, say left side / part that not showing ) is open ( pipe) and its inner linen has drilled about 8mm lock bolt tread ..just 1/2 of it...is there part missing? like cap, blug?? ...I was wondering this sens there is that 8mm lockbolt "place"


I would appreciate the help.

BR
Niko Hynninen /Fin

Hello,

the one with the most knowledge about Beche is Kallsmen in this forum, if you sent him a PM he can probably help you out a bit.

Try also to search for Beche here in this forum, I have seen alot of pictures and material posted to this forum.

Try also "lufthammare" to find the swedish stuff.

Regards,
/E

Hi Niko !
I´ve got some papers ( copies ) regarding a 65 kg´s Beche. It ain´t much but i can send some copies...if i´ll get your adress.
Cheers / Taidesäppä Karlsson ;D

If you put some picture here and i will help you what to do before running the hammer:

Kallsme´n

There should be a mark on the hammer or valve,where the valve be in the right position,

Are there a hatch/door on the opposite side of the valve?? if it is, look there

kallsme´n

Hi Kallsme´n

I try to get pic soon...It will take some time sens hammer is at work shop...bit too far at moment.

But secondary valve...The slide that is connected whit lever to bedal.
It was taken off...at some point, slight rust but not too much I think.

It you imagine sanding like forging pose..your right had side you have valves..going in the machine
bace..left side there is lots of lid´s some sems to be for water cooling system of bores of cyliders ( I think...cant be sure thought)
But there is also lid for secondary slide(valve) There is right markings in body of machine but I can cee in side the slide...its
like pipe..inner bore it has drilled hole and it has thread´s in it..but just 1/2 ( half) I get feeling that there was like but cap in it and somebody as taken that part away??? Serial nro are right at all the parts so its from this body of machine...but this secondary slide or more its other end is the mystery??
________________________
O________________________^^^^^^^^^^^^

Thats the slide ^ is the axle that goes trough the right side and there is lock and handle for " handy man" to control the power..
O marks the other end and thats the "pipe" like end...

Well....this is realy hard whit out photo...but I try to get it asp.

Thank you so much all ready.

BR
Niko

Here is pics of secondary valve....is it ok or somethign??? wrong Secondary valve has half treads in side...
Should it be closed like primary on top????

Niko

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Are there any more parts?
Like the coverplate over the valve, have you got them?
the marks on the valve should be att the right place when the pedal is pressed down and the
other mark, when its idling.
I think there are a missing part in the lover valve, like a backvale, with a spring (dont know the right words in english)
if this part is missing the hammer wont work.
The link to the padal is on the other side of the hammar, right!!

Kallsme´n

Hi.

Thank you.

I have all part´s, but this secondary valve issue " missing blug or not" is somethig I dont get??
So I do have covers and lever to otter side + spring/pin...right side.
Both valves will point right makings if I press pedal...so it should be ok.

If there were not this 1/2tread inside of valve pipe...I would not be worried..but sens its half treaded and it looks like ther sould be plug and maby this blug was locked whit tread??? But cover to this place will plug the valve...Wonder why the tread is made??

Do you think in side this secondary valve should be sort of back preasure valve and that could have bean locked whit tread that shows in pic?
Have any pics what this should look like

Niko

Yes, pack pressure valve must bee there, otherwise i wont work, sorry about that
You must have to find one

Kallsme´n

Kallsme´n

Thanks

Do you have pic what this should look like..It would help to find right part.
Or even some drawing...or part list form owners manual?

Best regars
Niko

I dont have anyting on these small hammer, and i dont think its equal on bigger hammer,
because the valve is in a seperate space i bigger hammer

Isn´t there anyone on the Anrtacit hwo have a Bche´ 65kg?

Try to look on this page, they might can help you on spareparts to the hammer or maybee a partlist or a drawing

http://www.presstrade.com

Kallsme´n

Thank´s for link.

However they could not help

If in forum has a member that is owner of same type 65 kg Beche...I would love to hear could we arange
deal for this part? Maby he/here could make one...I think it cant be too complex part...if there is sping it would be vital
to measure the preasure of it...whit same type quide as they measure petrol engine valve spings.

If anybody has info I would love to hear.

BR
Niko

Hi,
here is Sebastian from Germany. This missing Part is in German the "Rückschlagventil". It looks like a valve from a carmotor. If you have questions to Bêché Airhammers, ask Markus Balbach in Germany. He has a lot of conections. His number:
0049(0)64758911.

Sebastian